ask all of the families, military families, servicemen and women when he ended the war in iraq how happy were they. let me tell you how happy i was when he killed osama bin laden. and i went down to the 9-11 memorial and celebrated with thousands of strangers. we were happy on that day. we are happy that he has drawn down the war in afghanistan. there are many, many i think moments that romney is completely dismissing that this line of attack is not going to play well with people who can say, you know what? his record actually has affected me in significant ways and there is not -- they're not going to buy how you like me now tour. of course he's going to get a bump out of the convention, to be expected. he can enjoy it for a few weeks. but it's not going to last. >> rick: matt, were you surprised by how hard the ticket seems to be going after the youth vote? this is a group of voters who typically do vote democrat. but we had that line from congressman ryan the other night talking directly to those recent college grads saying it's time to stop looking at that fading obama poster in your